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Got a question on rule clarification, comments on rule enforcements or some memorable NHL stories? Kerry wants to answer your emails at cmonref@tsn.ca. In the Rangers-Canadiens game on Thursday, after Chris Kreider and P.K. Subban left the penalty box, Kreider clearly dropped his gloves first and Subban never did want to engage. How did the refs make such a decision to give them coincidental minors? Dropping the gloves should have been the first penalty before any contact between the players. Correct? Any thoughts on the cross check/embellishment penalties before?. I do not understand this disturbing trend. If you decide the first infraction was a cross-check, then there cannot be embellishment. It should be one or the other. Stephen Silver Vancouver B.C --- During the first period of the Canadiens-Rangers game on Thursday evening, Chris Kreider received an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty and P.K. Subban was given an embellishment penalty on the same play. Upon returning to the ice, Kreider immediately went after Subban, threw his gloves and tried to get him to fight. Subban did not oblige, and attempted to skate away without even acknowledging Kreider, yet they were both given matching unsportsmanlike conduct minors. What is the justification in penalizing Subban, when he apparently did absolutely nothing to warrant a penalty? Joey Savoy Stephen and Joey: There are a couple things at play with regard to the assessment of penalties in the two incidents involving P.K. Subban and Chris Kreider. Embellishment can result in a penalty after an initial infraction has been signaled based on any attempt by the player fouled to sell the call. The referees were instructed at the beginning of the season to remain vigilant on diving and embellishment so the trend will continue. First, let me (once again) address the depth of the embellishment hole that Subban has dug for himself with the vast majority of NHL referees. The unnatural falls that Subban can demonstrate to various levels of contact from opponents has the Montreal superstar skating on very thin ice with the refs. The phrase, perception is reality can be applied in this case. The reality is that Subbans behavior is clearly on the refs radar screen. As great a player and leader as P.K. is, he had better recognize and work hard at altering the reputation he has created for himself with the ref fraternity before his Habs get any closer to the playoffs. If Subban fails to find common ground with the referees on this issue, an undesirable penalty call could hurt his team at a most inopportune time in a game or playoff series. I strongly encourage P.K. to buy into what I am suggesting much sooner than later! Subban is far too good a player and much too valuable an asset for the Montreal Canadiens to be branded as a diver. While I probably would have handled the first situation between Krieder and Subban differently than referee Brad Watson, I understand the referees desire to put a stop to any nonsense that could get in the way of a great hockey match-up. After the whistle had stopped play and as both players were moving to their respective bench for a line change, Krieder gave Subban a short shove with his stick to lower back of the Montreal player. Subban went down like he was shot and Kreider tripped over Subbans feet and fell to the ice as well. The theatrics of Subbans unnatural fall to the contact by Kreider resulted in a trigger reaction by referee Watson to nip the circus atmosphere in the bud. Both players jawed at one another inside the penalty box and I saw the word fight mouthed by Kreider. It is reasonable to assume that the table was set for a mutually agreed upon fight once the two were released from the penalty box. There is no question that Kreider squared up to face Subban with his gloves dangling as he stepped out of the box. Subban skated toward his opponent and demonstrated a quick shoulder and arm shrug that would indicate an affirmative response to a fight invitation. Kreiders gloves flew off and Subban skated away with a mission accomplished feeling that he had drawn the Ranger player into taking a stand-alone penalty. The flaw in Subbans attempt came as a result of referee Watson trailing close behind the two players as they exited the penalty box. From this close proximity Watson observed the shoulder and hand shrug from Subban and assessed an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for actions designed to incite an opponent into incurring a penalty (75.4 iii, v). The referee was dialed in and fully aware of the potential confrontation once Subban and Kreider hit the ice from the penalty box. Subban was not as innocent as you suggested Stephen and Joey and was penalized appropriately for his role in the second altercation. Referee Watson then approached both benches and read the riot act to each coach. Pierre McGuire, positioned between the benches quoted the referee as saying, Were here to play hockey, were not going to have embellishment, were not going to have guys staging fights, were not going to have any kind of garbage, were gonna have hockey tonight and Im gonna make sure of it! I would have had this conversation with the coaches immediately after the first situation involving Kreider and Subban. Rather than impose penalties on that play I would have told both players to get up off the ice and quit acting like clowns. I would then have followed them to their players bench and read the riot act to both coaches. In that conversation I would put the onus on the coach to deliver my message to their players and if any more nonsense took place I would be imposing a stand-alone penalty wherever possible. I would not limit myself to a minor penalty but the option to impose a misconduct would remain on the table. I would also make it clear that the penalty might be their player and they probably wouldnt see it coming so it was in the coachs best interest to control the troops! I issued this edict to coaches on many occasions with resounding success. Sometimes I even had to impose that stand-alone penalty until they got the message that I meant business. The Greatest Show On Earth performs annually at Madison Square Garden. On this night however, referee Brad Watson made sure the performance by the Rangers and Canadiens didnt turn into a circus. 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After seven wins in a row, they have to do it one more time to get into the playoffs.Holly Holm will always be the proud owner of the UFC’s most shocking moment but has spectacularly failed to live up to her conquering of Ronda Rousey. Sky Sports question why… Holm has experienced a virtually unrivalled 12 months of highs and lows inside the Octagon, evolving from an inexperienced contender into a champion who toppled an apparently unbeatable title-holder. But she lost the belt herself as quickly as it was stunningly ripped from Rouseys waist and was handed a second consecutive defeat last weekend.Entering her biggest moment last November in Australia, Holm was largely fancied to be the latest lamb to the slaughter of the UFCs inaugural female champion who had chewed up three previous opponents in a combined 64 seconds. There wasnt much to suggest Rousey would struggle with her latest foe. Rousey struggled to land a punch on Holm The masterclass in sticking-and-moving that Holm produced, culminating in a head kick knockout, is enough to certify her place in the sports chronicles forevermore, regardless of whatever followed. Looking back, that might be as good as it gets.Two consecutive defeats - dropping the world title to Miesha Tate in March followed by losing a unanimous decision to Valentina Shevchenko last weekend - have ended her unbeaten record in humbling fashion. Miesha Tate crucially grabs hold of Holm to eventually win her world title Holms success in a previous career as a professional boxer was feted after she out-punched Rousey last year so her vulnerabilities were stark when stood toe-to-toe with Shevchenko. The counter-striking that superbly flummoxed Rousey didnt work when Shevchenko refused to be suckered in, and Holm struggled when forced to initiate.The truth about Holms boxing credentials is that they are difficult to analyse. She was recognised as a WBA champion and was twice Ring Magazines female fighter of the year, but that was a decade ago.ddddddddddddUpon closer inspection, only one of her 38 fights was held outside of her home state, New Mexico, and her knockout ratio was less than favourable (just nine of 33 wins). Pictured with Bernard Hopkins and Oscar De La Hoya But womens fighting remains a new, chaotic world three years on from its UFC inauguration. Female boxing, in the early-2000s when Holm first strapped on gloves, was a Wild West so perhaps she scarcely had the opportunity to travel further afield to demonstrate her talent.The womens division in the UFC had law and order, with Rousey-mania in full swing, until Holm blew it all apart last year. Sure, Holms results have been disastrous since but Tate, who beat her for the belt, also lost her first defence to Amanda Nunes and has two defeats to Rousey on her record. Rousey is still nowhere to be seen so, in the grand scheme of things, is Holms fall from grace so bad? Holm lands a kick on Raquel Pennington The American is approaching her 35th birthday and looked her age against Shevchenko. But in a womens division that has become harder and harder to predict in the past year, she should not be written off yet.Holm is a fighting pioneer as the first athlete of either gender to claim world championships in boxing and MMA. She will probably never scale the heights of her Rousey knockout, a moment that will far out-live her career, but thats not bad for a girl who was fighting before it became fashionable. Stranger turnarounds have happened than Holm becoming a champion again... 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